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PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:55 pm
by rjbarrington
Drive reported a while back that there should be a PHEV Ranger coming in 2024. Anyone heard anything locally?

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-ford ... australia/

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:07 pm
by rjbarrington
Looks like something is brewing for a September 19th reveal, under a #BestOfBothWorlds campaign. Hope they can do a full PHEV rather than some Mild Hybrid BS. Really hope they can offer it on the WIldtrak X.

https://twitter.com/FordAustralia/statu ... 6446313915
https://www.carsauce.com/car-news/elect ... -september

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:29 am
by Grant L1
rjbarrington wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:07 pm Looks like something is brewing for a September 19th reveal, under a #BestOfBothWorlds campaign. Hope they can do a full PHEV rather than some Mild Hybrid BS. Really hope they can offer it on the WIldtrak X.

https://twitter.com/FordAustralia/statu ... 6446313915
https://www.carsauce.com/car-news/elect ... -september
Just weigh up the pros and cons before getting a PHEV against HEV depending on how you use the vehicle.

I have a HEV and it is well worth it for us returning between 4 and 4.4l/h round town and around 5.4 to 5.5l/h on the highway. (BTW these figures refill to fill calculated). It only has a 55kg weight disadvantage against the straight petrol vehicle equivalent. Good thing is the vehicle I have they has been using this technology for 25 years so they have got it right. The vehicle was only$3000 dearer than a straight petrol.

With my Ranger I don't drive it round town so I would be carting a lot more weight around for very little gain and extra new unproven tech.

Not bagging PHEV's just asking others to take everything into consideration when looking for one.

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:49 am
by rjbarrington
That's fair. Horses for courses, and I have mixed feelings about best of both worlds also meaning the worst of both. I'd prefer BEV but I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.

Mine sees a lot of use either in or through the city, so I'd like to be a little cleaner about it. Switching to EV mode when passing walkers and riders in shared recreational areas would be good too. Plugging in means cheaper and cleaner "fuel" (either grid or solar) for daily driving which is nice - not that fuel savings are material when spending that much on a new car, but still good to know it's not burning hydrocarbons.

It'll be interesting to see if they go series (REX) like the Transit or series/parallel like the Escape.

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:50 pm
by naddis01
I don't see the point of plug in hybrids. It seems to take the disadvantages of EV and ICE and combines them. If I need to plug the thing in, just give me a full electric. Otherwise an ordinary hybrid would be better.

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:47 pm
by Deane
naddis01 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:50 pm I don't see the point of plug in hybrids. It seems to take the disadvantages of EV and ICE and combines them. If I need to plug the thing in, just give me a full electric. Otherwise an ordinary hybrid would be better.
PHEV just has one more option to plug into charge over HEV vehicles, to be honest hybrid takes away the limitations of stopping to charge compared to EV's
I'd take take a PHEV any day over a full EV vehicle.

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:12 pm
by rjbarrington
Coming in 2025... but you can register your interest.

https://www.ford.com.au/showroom/electric/phev/ranger/

https://www.ford.co.nz/showroom/future- ... /phev.html

https://www.ford.co.uk/vans-and-pickups/ranger-phev

The UK site says 1T payload, 3.5T towing, 2.3-litre EcoBoost engine, 11.8-kWh battery and a 75kW electric motor. They're aiming for 45-ish km EV range. 10A or 30A power outlet options.

Re: PHEV on the way?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:24 pm
by rjbarrington
Decent additional info on YouTube from Paul Maric.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyp5muiT0hg