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Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:51 pm
by dakiwalt
Hi Dingo Dan, did you resolve your issue? Your posts precisely describes one of Rangers. Was told everything looked normal at 3000km and I'm due to take it for its 15k service soon so would love to know how you went. Our other ranger drives beautifully - they're like completely different cars to drive.

Is Dingodan and Dingo dan the same person?

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:59 pm
by lincolnland
Yarrum1961 wrote:
D-ranged wrote:Thanks for your post Jfd2015.

I will bounce it off the dealer, Cheers.
Please feel free to bounce this story as Ford has bounced me all over the park and as such will never do business with them ever again, Ford just lost a 6 unit fleet purchase by not telling the truth to me, Had to find out for myself. Anyway even if it doesn't make a difference I am putting this out there as all birds come back to roost:

Don't get me wrong, I still love my 2014 Ford Ranger PX2 "BUT" I hate Ford Australia and everything they DONT stand for.
So let’s get that clear from the get go!
All the details that follow are fact, NOT hear-say
Ford Ranger Dec PX2 / 2014 / 3.2 /6 speed manual issues from NEW that every Ranger owner should know about.
1500 K’s gear shift mounting bolt came loose and lost all gears/ flat tray to Ford Geebung for correction.
The issue was an alert to ALL ford service departments and in most cases, was not acted upon.

10,000 K’s a front input shaft bearing rumble in neutral with foot off the clutch, Engauge clutch and all is silent.
Cause: Input shaft bearing failure (Cheap Chinese bearing factory)

Warranty remove gearbox and replace front input shaft, (CHEAP CHINEESE BEARINGS SUPPLIED BY FORD AUSTRALIA) and refitted.

20,000 K’s rear main seal leak on engine / service and main seal replacement (gearbox was removed to fix rear main seal leak)

20,100 K’s engine stop on Gateway bridge because gearbox wiring harness was not mounted back as factory and melted against exhaust. (short circuit)
Owner (Me) removed wiring from exhaust and back on the road with a visit to Ford Geebung to report the issue and arranged for next service to recheck wiring and correct.

21,000 K’s Flat tray recovery M1 to Gold Coast Ford in Ashmore to AGAIN tighten & lock tight gear selection bolt because Ford Geebung couldn’t be bothered the time.
Ford service at Geebung again performed due service along with yet another rear seal replacement 1000K’s after the last. Also CRUSHED wiring harness between motor & gear box.
Ford would not accept the problem of not starting was one of there causing, I chose to remove the vehicle with a NO confidence vote with Ford Geebung.

Flat trade out and fixed independently by (A diesel tuning fertility) within 5 hours and photos presented to Ford Bilson Rd Geebung, they still would not accept the POOR WORKMENSHIP.

This is where everything gets done to stuff over the owner, (ME) the owner has had a ECU re-map to improve fuel mileage because FORD made false claims of the PX2 performance.

When Ford Geebung removed & replaced the rear main seal for the (2ND) second time in 1000K’s they CRUSHED the wiring harness BETWEEN the motor and gearbox bell housing causing a short circuit.
Told me I was up for a $4000.00 repair bill because I had had a remap AND THE ecu WAS AT FAULT.
(TOSSERS)
POOR WORKMENSHIP.
(STILL RUNNING THE VERY SAME ECU@ 92,455K's ) They still say it was the fault while there lololol (Trained Technicians) NOT TRADESMEN did an unacceptable job and caused after service issues.
There a joke
I accepted all cost of flat tray and labor for a repair that THEY didn’t know how (or) couldn’t do.
Not only that Ford Geebung caused the fault in the first place and cost me money to un-do what they had done.

Now at 92400K’s the gearbox EXPLODES at 110 K’s per hour, in 6th gear, (I kid you not), It felt like I ran over an IUD or some kind of explosive) this thing is only rubble now (gear box wise) and they blame a ECU remap and a 3’ exhaust causing to much horse power / and or tuque.

This is my daily drive for work and hasn’t been off road really yet, does not towed anything heavy or at distance.
The sole purpose for the tuning is to provide drivability with a better fuel consumption rate than the standard misleading offered by Ford Australia.
The customer after sales service has been a joke, I have dash cam footage of them NOT performing a service.
Ford Billson Rd QLD and Ford Australia need to get all the upgrades and be away from the cheap scrap metal Chinese bearing Ford Australia use.
This issue really needs a re-call.
NOTHING they tell me is truthful and EVERY service I have had done from new has caused more issues then the Ranger went in with,
If it went in for a standard service without any issues it most often came out with one that Ford Service had caused.
In short, the Ford Ranger is a OK car, BUT Ford Service and the penny pinching of FORD AUSTRALIA leave me with a very bitter stuck pill in my throat.
NOTE: I have spoken to many agents Ford Service Departments use for Gear Box Warranty Repair.
ALL have said this issue is due to SUBSTANDARD bearing and that the 6th is the weakest gear in the manual gear box and 6th should be avoided “UNLESS” you are driving at ABOVE 120Kmph with an empty car ON FLAT road (NOT a SLIGHT incline) an NOT towing a trailer “Even an empty box trailer.
DON’T BELIEVE ME?: GOOGAL AND TALK TO GEARBOX REPAIR AGENTS.
From what I understand this applies to ALL 6 speed manuals eg: Nissan, Ford , Toyota and alike.
iud? lol

'"iud"
"diesel tuning fertility"?

sad story. hopes its resolved now?

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:03 am
by Telby
I find mine wants to hold gears too long, won't change up. You can back off the throttle but still doesn't change.
Even worse going down hills and worse still in low range.
I don't know if its a diesel thing or what. Never owned one before.
The commie I had before this would just change at the drop of a hat.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:34 am
by butch.
G'day Yarrum1961, I read your post and I'm left wondering what you are going to replace the Ranger with. You explained that you kicked yourself in the head a number of times......thats not a good thing to do. Cheers, Butch.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:20 am
by Terry 62
Yarrum1961 wrote:
D-ranged wrote:Thanks for your post Jfd2015.

NOTE: I have spoken to many agents Ford Service Departments use for Gear Box Warranty Repair.
ALL have said this issue is due to SUBSTANDARD bearing and that the 6th is the weakest gear in the manual gear box and 6th should be avoided “UNLESS” you are driving at ABOVE 120Kmph with an empty car ON FLAT road (NOT a SLIGHT incline) an NOT towing a trailer “Even an empty box trailer.
DON’T BELIEVE ME?: GOOGAL AND TALK TO GEARBOX REPAIR AGENTS.
From what I understand this applies to ALL 6 speed manuals eg: Nissan, Ford , Toyota and alike.
This applies with all manual transmissions that have overdrive gears. Once the ratio passes 1:1 (ie: 0.95:1) these gears should not be selected when towing.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:00 pm
by Trublu
Telby wrote:I find mine wants to hold gears too long, won't change up. You can back off the throttle but still doesn't change.
Even worse going down hills and worse still in low range.
I don't know if its a diesel thing or what. Never owned one before.
The commie I had before this would just change at the drop of a hat.
This is a lead frame harness/connector fault in your transmission, it will need replacing, a known problem for some of the early PX models.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:08 pm
by dakiwalt
trublu wrote:
Telby wrote:I find mine wants to hold gears too long, won't change up. You can back off the throttle but still doesn't change.
Even worse going down hills and worse still in low range.
I don't know if its a diesel thing or what. Never owned one before.
The commie I had before this would just change at the drop of a hat.
This is a lead frame harness/connector fault in your transmission, it will need replacing, a known problem for some of the early PX models.
Yes, this is exactly as mine is. Thanks for the tip trublu, I'll bring it up with the dealer.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:18 pm
by Trublu
dakiwalt wrote:
trublu wrote:
Telby wrote:I find mine wants to hold gears too long, won't change up. You can back off the throttle but still doesn't change.
Even worse going down hills and worse still in low range.
I don't know if its a diesel thing or what. Never owned one before.
The commie I had before this would just change at the drop of a hat.
This is a lead frame harness/connector fault in your transmission, it will need replacing, a known problem for some of the early PX models.
Yes, this is exactly as mine is. Thanks for the tip trublu, I'll bring it up with the dealer.

Could also be solenoid valve body, I had the lead frame connector & valve body replaced, been good since it was done.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:02 pm
by dingo dan
dakiwalt wrote:Hi Dingo Dan, did you resolve your issue? Your posts precisely describes one of Rangers. Was told everything looked normal at 3000km and I'm due to take it for its 15k service soon so would love to know how you went. Our other ranger drives beautifully - they're like completely different cars to drive.

Is Dingodan and Dingo dan the same person?

Hi dakiwalt,
Yes dingodan and dingo dan are the same. I stuffed up registering for this forum.

My px11 transmission problems were probability just a period of time when the transmission "learns" how i drive. The problems seemed to settle after awhile.

So far, all is good with the ute.

Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:54 am
by MrTBum
I found that during the first 12k kms the transmission on my px2 was a bit rough, stretched gears out too long, searched for gears a bit around the 60k/hr range, etc but since then it has been night and day. Smooth as. When you kick it in the ass and really need to move the transmission performs flawlessly. A colleague at work had tranny issues with his Everest then around his 15k service it just magically grew up and now runs well. My vote is give your transmission a chance, as long as it isn't exploding or there isn't some other major issue festering, it should get better. Mine "learned good". Now if I can get rid of the injector chatter....


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Re: Feed back required. People with PX I and II autos

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:14 am
by Ranger#540
Hi team,

Does anyone know if there is any available 2020 TCM software updated for a 2016 PX2? Last update on my truck was 2019. Thanks in advance!