Auto start stop / disabling it

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Jordansolly

Auto start stop / disabling it

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Just wondering if anyone's done the old bridging trick on the mk2 rangers start stop button like what they do on the f-trucks and what wires they bridged

What's your thoughts?
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Saeb can disable properly. Check his thread. Cheers
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Okay I'll check it out

Thanks (Y)
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What "Start Stop" button are you talking about please? :)
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Interested as well in an explaination, cheers
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manual px2 has auto stop start. a fuel saving function. when u stop and take your foot off the clutch the engine switches off. press the clutch and the engine starts again. the function can be disabled by using the auto stop start button. cheers
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Thank you lincon cheers
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lincolnland wrote:manual px2 has auto stop start. a fuel saving function. when u stop and take your foot off the clutch the engine switches off. press the clutch and the engine starts again. the function can be disabled by using the auto stop start button. cheers
In merica they have it on their autos as well! Ford nz are unable to disable, i ran out of steam to do Saebs mod as I dont have the right gear atm. I am aware of the bridging thing which would involve removing the console to get at the switch...or you can buy the redtech module which prob still involves removing the console?
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lincolnland wrote:manual px2 has auto stop start. a fuel saving function. when u stop and take your foot off the clutch the engine switches off. press the clutch and the engine starts again. the function can be disabled by using the auto stop start button. cheers
Thanks, I didn't know that as I drive an Auto. :-)
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i might come see you with my work hack stewie its really sh1tting me in that ute. plus i need it running to keep the batt charged for the tools charging etc as well as the beacon going for 10hrs. it is a cool bit of kit, but only when it impresses people that havent seen it before on site. lol. they always say how the f..k...
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Yeah I have ordered a scan tool to rewrite the code that's on saebs website so hopefully all goes well it's currently in getting some body work done :3
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Hi all i know this is an old thread but i finally found a way of deactivating the auto stop start without any scan tools or modules and it takes about 10 seconds to do. Simply open the bonnet and on the negative side of the battery terminal there is a plug. Simply disconnect this plug and problem solved.
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Pics please
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This plug is attached to the shunt/battery sense module is it not? Grey plug?
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Re: Auto start stop / disabling it

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Hi sorry i cant upload photos it says file size too large. Its the black plug coming from the negative terminal off the battery. Ive had it unplugged for about a month havnt noticed any ill effects
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https://youtu.be/ptqnWPeiIg4
Thats a youtube link on how to do it. The car in the video is a px3 but my cars the px2 and worked perfectly
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I wonder what else doesn't work anymore? That module is involved in the smart charging system and lots of things can no longer sense what is going on with the battery and associated systems.
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l0n3r4ng3r wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:19 pm I wonder what else doesn't work anymore? That module is involved in the smart charging system and lots of things can no longer sense what is going on with the battery and associated systems.
This is my question too. If this sensor is disconnected, does the battery just revert to a normal blind charging system? There must be other systems that rely on battery info to function properly.Duration of heated windscreen and seats etc? Does the DPF regen on,y start when battery health is above a certain level?
Anyone care to throw some informed light on it, as opposed to my useless Brit guesswork!
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I can confirm that the DPF will not do any regen with this sensor disconnected.
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Its been over 2 months and my car still doesnt have any ill effects. Although i have noticed my battery is alot stronger now as it seemed to struggle abit to kick over which probably confirms it switches back to blind charging with the sensor disconnected
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Ugasu wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:14 pm Its been over 2 months and my car still doesnt have any ill effects. Although i have noticed my battery is alot stronger now as it seemed to struggle abit to kick over which probably confirms it switches back to blind charging with the sensor disconnected
Hey, is this just by disconnecting the plug on the Neg side of the battery? i was going to give it a go ?
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Yes correct
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Do it properly.

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Disconnecting that plug can create major issues
To give you an idea this is all the error codes it throws unplugged
Clear them & they just come straight back.
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A possible option for those that want another choice...the USA cars don't always allow STOP-START if there is a load on the AC (240V) inverter. They just stick a night light (any low load device) permanently into the 240V outlet to effectively disable the function. No idea if it'll work on Thai built Rangers, but might be worth a try. (the inverter turns off after 30sec(?) when the engine is manually stopped)
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lincolnland wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:33 pm Do it properly.

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This.
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Ugasu wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:58 am Hi sorry i cant upload photos it says file size too large. Its the black plug coming from the negative terminal off the battery. Ive had it unplugged for about a month havnt noticed any ill effects
Works perfectly until it doesnt. Disconnecting essential loom parts is a nonsense. But it is your vehicle. Just set the timer for all goes wrong mode.
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lincolnland wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:58 am
Ugasu wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:58 am Hi sorry i cant upload photos it says file size too large. Its the black plug coming from the negative terminal off the battery. Ive had it unplugged for about a month havnt noticed any ill effects
Works perfectly until it doesnt. Disconnecting essential loom parts is a nonsense. But it is your vehicle. Just set the timer for all goes wrong mode.
Lol ill be the guinea pig for this experiment ;)
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Ugasu wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:11 am
lincolnland wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:58 am
Ugasu wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:58 am Hi sorry i cant upload photos it says file size too large. Its the black plug coming from the negative terminal off the battery. Ive had it unplugged for about a month havnt noticed any ill effects
Works perfectly until it doesnt. Disconnecting essential loom parts is a nonsense. But it is your vehicle. Just set the timer for all goes wrong mode.
Lol ill be the guinea pig for this experiment ;)
Does yours have a DPF?
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Ugasu wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:11 am
lincolnland wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:58 am
Ugasu wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:58 am Hi sorry i cant upload photos it says file size too large. Its the black plug coming from the negative terminal off the battery. Ive had it unplugged for about a month havnt noticed any ill effects
Works perfectly until it doesnt. Disconnecting essential loom parts is a nonsense. But it is your vehicle. Just set the timer for all goes wrong mode.
Lol ill be the guinea pig for this experiment ;)

Very much appreciated. Good luck with your projects
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Normalbloke2 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:12 am
Ugasu wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:11 am
lincolnland wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:58 am

Works perfectly until it doesnt. Disconnecting essential loom parts is a nonsense. But it is your vehicle. Just set the timer for all goes wrong mode.
Lol ill be the guinea pig for this experiment ;)
Does yours have a DPF?
Nope its an early 2016 model
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catherder wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:08 pm A possible option for those that want another choice...the USA cars don't always allow STOP-START if there is a load on the AC (240V) inverter. They just stick a night light (any low load device) permanently into the 240V outlet to effectively disable the function. No idea if it'll work on Thai built Rangers, but might be worth a try. (the inverter turns off after 30sec(?) when the engine is manually stopped)
Certainly my Thai-built PX3 disables start-stop if the 240V is in use, my son usually has his game charger plugged in.
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